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jems is way cool. :) Check this out: 
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snurchcons, and here. There's more, too.
I wanted to dothemorningstarr's Fanfic-shelf Meme, but I haven't read enough to make it worthwhile -- I'd have to delete most of her list, and I don't think I've enough in mind to make it back up to 10!
I have finally reached the 'But...! [raised index finger]' point in reading other peoples' versions of this meme, so...
In no particular order:
1. Slash has got out-of-hand, and related issues
a. Sirius is reasonably heterosexual.
No, I can't provide apologia for this one other than oversimplified demographics and biology, and personal preference. However, this doesn't mean I don't think the One True Way brigade doesn't have a legitimate 'alt' on their... paws, even if I don't fancy it myself.
(waves atsit_good_dog, drachenaugen, [Bad username or site: jedi boadicea @ livejournal.com], katinka31, hellcatjelybean et al.)
b. Starsky & Hutch are not gay lovers; neither are Ben and either of the Rays.
You can write all the AUs and fantasies you want, it's a free fandom, but S&H dealt with this in the series. Get over it and don't try to insist it's the S&H 'One True Way'.
Due South, admittedly, doesn't make it cut and dried, but they set things up to make it EXTREMELY unlikely.
c. Just in case it needs to be said: not liking slash has nothing at all to do with me wanting to see realistic gay or bi characters in some canon or another.
I think Berman & Braga were weasels for not keeping the implied promise in the Trek franchise for including a gay character in the established rainbow of human existence which was part of which originally defined Trek. I think the accountants, lawyers and suits running Hollywood are cowards for not doing the same, although things may be changing soon.
However, slash in my experience has very little to do with realistic minority-sexuality characters. What it does have to do with depends largely on the sociopolitical training and hormone levels of the author.
2. Just because they're friends, it does NOT mean they harbour secret lust for each other.
This goes for EVERYBODY (meaning characters) straight, gay or bi. I was actually a little disappointed when Mulder and Scully drifted into being in love, just because it'd be nice for once to see a long-term het relationship which stayed platonic. I mean, it was really WAFFy once they got around to it, but... predictable.
But Goddess in heaven above, if future archeologists ever take fanfic as a sampling of 'realistic attitudes in the early 21st century', they'll think the government pumped Spanish Fly or oysters or something into public water supplies.
OK, enough of that specific theme. I'll skip the 'alt' versus 'slash' thing 'cause it doesn't really belong here.
3. Just because they're fictional characters, you can do anything you want to/with them.
Why? They're not yours to start with, and you liked them an awful lot the way they were presented to you -- why squick things up?
This is, in part, an echo of the other Unpopular Opinions out there about the perversions of twincest, incest in general, rape et al. being 'sexy' fanfic concepts.
It's also a rant on authorial rights. I have an RPG character who has meshed flawlessly with my friend's AU take on Sirius Black. Someone said she was going to make fanfic from the RPG, and we both jumped down her throat. I would hate to see anybody mess with that character.mightygodking has said something not dissimilar recently, about when he makes a really popular feature film, how he'd dislike seeing the characters messed about with.
I see it as a respect issue. Don't touch other people's stuff in a way you think they'd object to -- don't spraypaint somebody's car International Distress orange, don't do a lion cut on their long-haired cat, don't make somebody else's character a bondage queen when they're allergic to latex.
4. Deliberate wankage is neither funny nor clever.
And pretending outrage or injury when you're perpetrating said wankage is offensive. I can't (and wouldn't) point fingers at anyone because I have no proof of any kind, but I saw enough going on not that long ago to make me suspicious in general. Grow up. Consider karma.
5. If it's not yours, don't act like it is: Site whinging
If you're not paying a specific subscription fee of any sort to a website, you have no rights to tell the website owners how to run things. Suggest, yes, if solicited, but they can make any changes they want to. If you don't like it, and they've already explained their position on a change, tough. Leave, spend your own money and start your own site, but you don't get to complain bitterly and at length (well, technically, you do, but it makes you look stupid, it's non-productive, and you're not going to get your way anyway).
I couldn't believe all the complaints I saw about FF.net changing their story-archiving policy. People seemed to think this was a public service they had a RIGHT to. Not on somebody else's shilling, you don't. If the site owner was actually sued successfully and either lost all his money in the settlement or went to jail, see how fast it'd go down and stay down then, presumptuous brats.
And other sites *small cough* have had smaller similar tempests-in-teapots.
Proactively -- if you've contributed to the Sugar Quill or Fiction Alley, you haven't bought any rights. You've just been catching up what you owe.
I reserve my right to add Opinions 6 through 10
at a later date or dates.
WAAA-HOOO! Cymru am byth!! [does Weasley-sibling dance] Celts so rule, Celts so rule, Celts so rule...! [/d]
jems is way cool. :) Check this out: , as seen here, snurchcons, and here. There's more, too.I wanted to do
themorningstarr's Fanfic-shelf Meme, but I haven't read enough to make it worthwhile -- I'd have to delete most of her list, and I don't think I've enough in mind to make it back up to 10!I have finally reached the 'But...! [raised index finger]' point in reading other peoples' versions of this meme, so...
My Own Unpopular Fandom Opinions
In no particular order:
1. Slash has got out-of-hand, and related issues
a. Sirius is reasonably heterosexual.
No, I can't provide apologia for this one other than oversimplified demographics and biology, and personal preference. However, this doesn't mean I don't think the One True Way brigade doesn't have a legitimate 'alt' on their... paws, even if I don't fancy it myself.
(waves at
sit_good_dog, drachenaugen, [Bad username or site: jedi boadicea @ livejournal.com], katinka31, hellcatjelybean et al.)b. Starsky & Hutch are not gay lovers; neither are Ben and either of the Rays.
You can write all the AUs and fantasies you want, it's a free fandom, but S&H dealt with this in the series. Get over it and don't try to insist it's the S&H 'One True Way'.
Due South, admittedly, doesn't make it cut and dried, but they set things up to make it EXTREMELY unlikely.
c. Just in case it needs to be said: not liking slash has nothing at all to do with me wanting to see realistic gay or bi characters in some canon or another.
I think Berman & Braga were weasels for not keeping the implied promise in the Trek franchise for including a gay character in the established rainbow of human existence which was part of which originally defined Trek. I think the accountants, lawyers and suits running Hollywood are cowards for not doing the same, although things may be changing soon.
However, slash in my experience has very little to do with realistic minority-sexuality characters. What it does have to do with depends largely on the sociopolitical training and hormone levels of the author.
2. Just because they're friends, it does NOT mean they harbour secret lust for each other.
This goes for EVERYBODY (meaning characters) straight, gay or bi. I was actually a little disappointed when Mulder and Scully drifted into being in love, just because it'd be nice for once to see a long-term het relationship which stayed platonic. I mean, it was really WAFFy once they got around to it, but... predictable.
But Goddess in heaven above, if future archeologists ever take fanfic as a sampling of 'realistic attitudes in the early 21st century', they'll think the government pumped Spanish Fly or oysters or something into public water supplies.
OK, enough of that specific theme. I'll skip the 'alt' versus 'slash' thing 'cause it doesn't really belong here.
3. Just because they're fictional characters, you can do anything you want to/with them.
Why? They're not yours to start with, and you liked them an awful lot the way they were presented to you -- why squick things up?
This is, in part, an echo of the other Unpopular Opinions out there about the perversions of twincest, incest in general, rape et al. being 'sexy' fanfic concepts.
It's also a rant on authorial rights. I have an RPG character who has meshed flawlessly with my friend's AU take on Sirius Black. Someone said she was going to make fanfic from the RPG, and we both jumped down her throat. I would hate to see anybody mess with that character.
mightygodking has said something not dissimilar recently, about when he makes a really popular feature film, how he'd dislike seeing the characters messed about with.I see it as a respect issue. Don't touch other people's stuff in a way you think they'd object to -- don't spraypaint somebody's car International Distress orange, don't do a lion cut on their long-haired cat, don't make somebody else's character a bondage queen when they're allergic to latex.
4. Deliberate wankage is neither funny nor clever.
And pretending outrage or injury when you're perpetrating said wankage is offensive. I can't (and wouldn't) point fingers at anyone because I have no proof of any kind, but I saw enough going on not that long ago to make me suspicious in general. Grow up. Consider karma.
5. If it's not yours, don't act like it is: Site whinging
If you're not paying a specific subscription fee of any sort to a website, you have no rights to tell the website owners how to run things. Suggest, yes, if solicited, but they can make any changes they want to. If you don't like it, and they've already explained their position on a change, tough. Leave, spend your own money and start your own site, but you don't get to complain bitterly and at length (well, technically, you do, but it makes you look stupid, it's non-productive, and you're not going to get your way anyway).
I couldn't believe all the complaints I saw about FF.net changing their story-archiving policy. People seemed to think this was a public service they had a RIGHT to. Not on somebody else's shilling, you don't. If the site owner was actually sued successfully and either lost all his money in the settlement or went to jail, see how fast it'd go down and stay down then, presumptuous brats.
And other sites *small cough* have had smaller similar tempests-in-teapots.
Proactively -- if you've contributed to the Sugar Quill or Fiction Alley, you haven't bought any rights. You've just been catching up what you owe.
at a later date or dates.
